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Title: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 25, 2007, 09:31:44 PM
The Kings of Israel in the New Chronology
from "The Lost Testament", page 420





















Jeroboam 1931-911
Nadab911-910
Baasha910-887
Elah887-886
Zimri886
Tibni886-885
Omri886-875
Ahab874-852
Ahaziah855-854
Joram853-842
Jehu841-814
Jehoahaz813-797
Jehoash799-783
Jeroboam 2792-742
Zechariah741
Shallum741
Menahem740-731
Pekahiah739-738
Pekah737-730
Hoshea730-722


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 25, 2007, 09:37:15 PM
The Kings of Judah in the New Chronology
from "The Lost Testament", page 420






















Rehoboam931-915
Abijam914-912
Asa912-872
Jehoshaphat871-850
Jehoram849-842
Ahaziah842
Athaliah842-836
Joash835-796
Amaziah795-767
Uzziah778-737
Jotham747-732
Ahaz731-716
Hezekiah727-699
Manasseh698-644
Amon643-642
Josiah641-611
Jehoahaz610
Jehoiakim609-599
Jehoiachin599-598
Zedekiah597-587


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on August 25, 2007, 09:41:39 PM
I can't believe that Rohl put all the information I always wanted into the one book of his that I do not have  :o
Thanks so, so much ;)
I'll start the task of merging these data with the (until now rather unordered) data already in the database....


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 25, 2007, 10:31:50 PM
These are all the king lists I can find in "that book" :)

You might also want to add Absalom to the list of United Israelite Kingdom rulers - Rohl dates his brief reign to 985 BC.


Title: The Israelite Kingdoms
Post by: Cush on August 25, 2007, 11:31:03 PM
OK, double chart ...  ;)

(http://www.history-book.net/charts/divided_monarchy.png)


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 26, 2007, 01:10:51 AM
Looking good. Though you seem to have renamed Josiah as Athaliah ;)


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on August 26, 2007, 01:37:19 AM
Quote from: theelf29 on August 26, 2007, 01:10:51 AM
Looking good. Though you seem to have renamed Josiah as Athaliah ;)
When did queen Athaliah reign in the NC ?


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 26, 2007, 01:43:53 AM
842-836. She's on there, present and correct.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on August 26, 2007, 01:54:39 AM
F5  ;)


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 26, 2007, 03:24:09 AM
Glad you sorted that out - I have a feeling Josiah would NOT have been pleased! lol  ;D


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on August 26, 2007, 03:28:30 AM
You never know...  :D

OK, what else can I do design-wise to improve the website? And the charts.
I have come to the conclusion that I really need to change the navigation somehow... and make it easier to get to the dynastic tables. Maybe I should have an index page for the various dynasties?


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on August 26, 2007, 03:47:44 AM
Hmmm.... I like the design of the site. One suggestion might be charts encompassing all dynasties on the landing pages (http://www.history-book.net/?e=1098) when visitors click on a particular chronology on the front page.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on October 14, 2007, 09:21:57 PM
For how long was Shaul king of Israel? I keep reading that it was something between 35 and 40 years. However, in the NC he seems to have ruled only a very few years.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on October 15, 2007, 09:45:09 PM
Jewish tradition (corroborated by the New Testament) has him reigning for forty years, though I've seen dates of 2, 12 and 22 bandied about.

Considering Labayu was known as far away as Arzawa, I'd suspect his reign would be longer than the 2 years (1012-1011?) Rohl credits him with. Surely he's going to need to have an established power base before challenging pharaoh and courting such distant princes as Tarhuntaradu.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on October 15, 2007, 10:02:09 PM
I wonder if he was an important figure way before he became a king "officially", so that (just as in the case of David) there is confusion about his reign length. A margin of over 30 years seems quite a lot and it would stir questions about David's age and role at Shaul's court.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on October 16, 2007, 09:01:44 PM
I've seen some suggestion that Saul (who, iirc, was "crowned" on three separate occasions) operated as a judge for some period of time, a period later added to his regnal dates as king.


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: Cush on October 16, 2007, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: theelf29 on October 16, 2007, 09:01:44 PM
I've seen some suggestion that Saul (who, iirc, was "crowned" on three separate occasions) operated as a judge for some period of time, a period later added to his regnal dates as king.
That would explain the huge disparity. Should I add any such comment to the entry for >Shaul< (http://www.history-book.net/?e=1217) in the database (which would need some filling anyways) ?

Btw, right now I am working more in the bowels of the database and adjust some tables to be used more flexibly. But I am still not done with implementing the genealogical charts export...  :(


Title: Re: The Israelite Kingdom
Post by: theelf29 on October 18, 2007, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Cush on October 16, 2007, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: theelf29 on October 16, 2007, 09:01:44 PM
I've seen some suggestion that Saul (who, iirc, was "crowned" on three separate occasions) operated as a judge for some period of time, a period later added to his regnal dates as king.
That would explain the huge disparity. Should I add any such comment to the entry for >Shaul< (http://www.history-book.net/?e=1217) in the database (which would need some filling anyways) ?


I'd add a note, stating this is a possibility, unless Rohl has suggested something similar.


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