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271  New Chronology Discussion / Egyptian and Levantine Chronology / Re: TIP & Late Period on: August 19, 2007, 04:05:57 PM
Looking at the dynastic dates given in "The Lost Testament," Rohl proposes the following: -

Manetho's 23rd Dynasty in the New Chronology
1.Sehetepibenre Pedubast II (25 years)661 to 637 BC
2.Osorkon V (9 years)637 to 629 BC
3.Psammus (10 years)629 to 620 BC

Thus it appears that Rohl sees this dynasty as entirely contemporary with Psamtik od the Saite 26th Dynasty, rising also during the reign of Tantamani of the Nubian 25th.

Rohl also gives the following dates for the ephemeral 24th Dynasty: -

1.Shepsesre Tefnakht I (5 years)716 to 712 BC
2.Wahkare Bakenranef (6 years)710 to 705 BC

Rohl has Iuput I (who's in your 23rd Dynasty) as penultimate king of the 21st Dynasty (Tanite), reigning from 739 to 701 BC. Rudamon he places in the 21st Dynasty (Theban), reigning from 692 to 667 BC.

Hope this helps!

Graham John  Smiley
272  Literature / Modern Literature / Re: "The Lords of Avaris" by David Rohl on: August 19, 2007, 04:09:08 AM
I'll try to draft something for you asap. I'm in total agreement in that the TIP is the sticking point. Afaik it seems to be the commonly held view of these dynasties as sequential (including, to an extent, XIX & XX) which necessitates the "Dark Ages" throughout other parts of the world.

It's amazing how those Classical Greeks and Romans managed to forget those centuries of obscurity......  Wink
273  Literature / Modern Literature / Re: "The Lords of Avaris" by David Rohl on: August 18, 2007, 08:27:42 PM
Hmmm..... I'm not sure. I've seen some incomplete Egyptian dynastic tables which I believe are Rohl's dates. I could dig out "A Test of Time" and draft something in Excel if you like? Other than that, I'm sorry, but I haven't seen anything in chart form online.
274  New Chronology Discussion / Mediterranean Chronology / The Heroic Age of Greece on: August 18, 2007, 02:39:37 AM
Hello all,

Is there anyone who has an interest in this period?
275  Literature / Modern Literature / Re: Immanuel Velikovsky on: August 18, 2007, 02:24:25 AM
Thanks for the welcome. I look forward to sojourning here!  Smiley

Velikovsky certainly was a controversial figure in his day, though he cut the path that David Rohl and many other chronological reformers now tread so to speak.

What is interesting is that some of his cosmological conjectures (Venus being very hot, Jupiter emitting radiation as I recall) have been proven true since he put them on paper.

Though many of his chronological ideas (such as delinking Dynasties 18 & 19 in Egypt and seeing in the latter duplicates for Dynasty 26) are now largely disregarded, some of his premises are still used by current revisionists (such as Brad Aaronson/Lisa Liel, who maintain Velikovsky's equasion of Shishak with Thutmose III).

I shall be looking again at Velikovsky's "Darke Age of Greece" once I finish "Lords of Avaris" (not long to go now - last chapter).
276  Literature / Modern Literature / Immanuel Velikovsky on: August 11, 2007, 03:17:13 AM
Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone is familiar with Velikovsky's chronological thinking. If so, what is the genearl consensus?

Graham  Smiley
277  Literature / Modern Literature / Re: "The Lords of Avaris" by David Rohl on: August 11, 2007, 03:04:11 AM
Working my way through it at the moment.

My impression so far is that is typical David Rohl. Broad in scope, yet retaining a very readable (to the layman) style. I've been waiting years for this and I'm not disappointed. Very courageous scholar and excellent writer/broadcaster.
278  New Chronology Discussion / Ethiopian Chronology / Re: Lineage of Ethiopian Kings and Rulers on: August 11, 2007, 03:00:11 AM
I'm not sure that the Ethiopian King List is accurate at all. I understand that it dates from the time of Ras Tafari Haile Selassie and seems to be heavily influenced by the then-current Egyptological thinking about the placement of various potentates in Nubia/Upper Egypt.

I will garner more information as, unfortunately, I don't have it to hand at present.

Anyway, my first post so hello! I like the look of this site, very ambitious project.
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