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Babylonia
« on: August 24, 2007, 03:11:19 PM »

David Rohl's dats for the Babylonian kings from the Kassite invasion to the Aramaean incursions.

Kurigalzu II1179-1155
Nazi-Marrutash1154-1129
Kadashman-Turgu1128-1111
Kadashman-Enlil1110-1102
Kudur-Enlil1101-1094
Shagarakti-Shuriash1092-1080
Kashtiliash IV1079-1072
Enlil-nadin-shumi1071
Kadashman-harbe II1071-1070
Adad-shuma-iddina1069-1064
Adad-shuma-usur1063-1050
Kurigalzu III1049-1041
Meli-shipak1041-1029
Nabu-apla-iddina1028
Marduk-apla-iddina1029-1023
Kadashman-Enlil III1022-1016
Zababa-shuma-iddina1019
Enlil-nadin-ahi1018-1016
Itti-Marduk-balatu1015
Burna-buriash III1014-1004
Ninurta-nadin-shumi1003-1002
Nebuchadnezzar I1001-980
Enlil-nadin-apli979-976
Marduk-nadin-ahhe975-958
Marduk-shapik-zeri957-945
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Babylonia: Macedonian / Seleucid Dynasty
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 04:19:48 AM »

Macedonian / Seleucid Dynasty
Seleucus 1 Nicator
305
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281
Antiochus 1 Soter
291
-
261
Antiochus 2 Theos
261
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246
Seleucus 2 Callinicus
246
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225
Seleucus 3 Ceraunus(Soter)
225
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223
Antiochus 3(the Great)
223
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187
Seleucus 4 Philopator
187
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175
Antiochus 4 Epiphanes
175
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164
Antiochus 5 Eupator
164
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162
Demetrius 1 Soter
161
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150
Alexander 1 Balas
150
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145
Demetrius 2 Nicator
145
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138
Antiochus 4 Dionysus(Epiphanes)
145
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140
Diodotus Tryphon
140
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138
Antiochus 7 Sidetes(Euergetes)
138
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129
Demetrius 2 Nicator
129
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126
Alexander 2 Zabinas
129
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123
Cleopatra Thea
126
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123
Seleucus 5 Philometor
126
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125
Antiochus 8 Grypus
125
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96
Antiochus 9 Cyzicenus
114
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96
Seleucus 6 Epiphanes Nicator
96
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95
Antiochus 10 Eusebes Philopator
95
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92
Demetrius 3 Eucaerus(Philopator)
95
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87
Antiochus 11 Epiphanes Philadelphus
95
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92
Philip 1 Philadelphus
95
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83
Antiochus 12 Dionysus
87
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84
Tigranes 1(of Armenia)
83
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69
Seleucus 7 Kybiosaktes(Philometor)
75
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69
Antiochus 13 Asiaticus
69
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64
Philip 2 Philoromaeus
65
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63
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2007, 09:16:53 PM »

A comparison with the Orthodox Chronology of post-Hammurabic Dynasty Babylon with dates from the New Chronology: -

Babylon 2Dynasty of the Sealand
Iluma-Ilum (Iliman)OC c.1732-1700claimed descent from Damiq-Ilushu of Isin. Enemy of Abieshuh
Itti-Ili-Nibic.1700-1682
Damiq-Ilushuc.1683-1657lost Uruk, Isin & Larsa
Ishkibalc.1657-1642
Shunshshic.1642-1618
Gulkisharc.1618-1592contemporary (& beneficiary) of fall of Babylon to Murshili 1
Gishen?c.1592-1580
Peshgaldaramashc.1580-1530
Adarakalammac.1530-1502
Ekurduannac.1502-1476
Melamkurkurrac.1476-1469
Ea-Gamilc.1469-1460overthrown by Agum 3
Babylon 3Kassite Dynasty
Gandashc.1730-1705in Mari
Agum 1c.1705-1690in Mari
Kashtiliash 1c.1690-1680in Mari
Ushshic.1680-1665in Mari
Abirattashc.1665-1650in Mari
Kashtiliash 2c.1640-1630in Mari
Urzigurumashc.1640-1630in Mari
Harbashihuc.1630-1600in Mari
Tiptakzic.1600-1595in Mari
Agum 2 (Kakrime)c.1595-1545conquered Babylon after Hittite withdrawal
Burnaburiash 1c.1545-1500contemporary of Puzur-Ashur 3 of Assyria
Kashtiliash 3c.1500-1470
Ulamburiashc.1470-1465
Agum 3c.1465-1445conqueror of the Sealand
Kadashman-Harbe 1c.1445-1440
Karaindashc.1440-1430
Kurigalzu 1c.1430-1380built Dur-Kurigalzu
Kadashman-Enlil 1c.1380-1359
Burnaburiash 21359-1333contemporary of Akhnaten
Karahardash1333grandson of Ashuruballit
Nazibugash1333overthrown by Ashuruballit
Kurigalzu 21332-1308NC 1179-1155Assyrian puppet. Conquered Elam under Hurpatila
Nazimaruttash1308-12821154-1129
Kadashman-Turgu1282-12641128-1111
Kadashman-Enlil 21264-12551110-1102
Kudur-Enlil1255-12461101-1094”Kudur” is Elamite?
Shagarakti-Shuriash1246-12331092-1080
Kashtiliash 41233-12251079-1072fought Elam. Overthrown by Tukulti-Ninurta 1
Tukulti-Ninurta1255Assyrian king
Enlil-Nadin-Shumi1225-12241071Assyrian governor
Kadashman-Harbe 21224-12221071-1070Assyrian governor
Adad-Shuma-Iddina1222-12171069-1064Assyrian governor. Elamites raid Nippur
Adad-Shuma-Usur1217-11871063-1050son of Kashtiliash 4
Kurigalzu 31049-1041
Melishpak (Meli-Shipak)1187-11721041-1029
Nabu-Apal-Iddina1028
Marduk-Apal-Iddina 1 (Merodach-Baladan)1172-11591029-1023
Kadashman-Enlil 31022-1016
Zababa-Shuma-Iddina1159-11581019war with Elam
Enlil-Nadin-Ahhe (Enlil-Shuma-Usur)1157(-1155?)1018-1016Babylon conquered by Shutruk-Nahhunte of Elam
Kutir-Nahhuntefl. c.1155Elamite governor. Son of Shutruk-Nahhunte
Burnaburiash 31014-1004*placed here due to Kassite name*
Babylon 42nd Dynasty of Isin
Marduk-Kabit-Ahheshu1155-1146prince of Isin. Defeated Elam & Assyria
Itti-Marduk-Balatu1146-11321015fought Assyria
Ninurta-Nadin-Shumi1132-11261003-1002fought Assyria
Nabu-Kudurri-Usur 1 (Nebuchadrezzar)1126-11031001-980sacked Susa
Enlil-Nadin-Ahhe1103-1100979-976
Marduk-Nadin-Ahhe1100-1082975-958brother of Nabu-Kudurri-Usur. Defeated by Tiglath-Pileser 1
Marduk-Shapik-Zeri1082-1069957-945sought alliance with Assyria to combat Aramaeans
Adad-Apal-Iddina1069-1046Aramaean usurper
Marduk-Ahhe-Eriba1046
Marduk-Zer-[…]1045-1033
Nabu-Shum-Libur1033-1025
Babylon 52nd Dynasty of the Sealand
Simbar-Shipak1025-1008Kassite from the Sealand
Ea-Mukin-Zeri10085 months
Kashu-Nadin-Ahhe1007-1004
Babylon 6Bazi Dynasty
Eulma-Shakin-Shumi1004-987Aramaean from Bit-Bazi
Ninurta-Kudurri-Usur 1987-985
Shirikti-Shuqamuna3 months. “Shuqamuna” is a Kassite deity(?)
Babylon 7Elamite Dynasty
Mar-Biti-Apla-Usur984-979soilder from the Sealand
Babylon 8
Nabu-Mukin-Apli979-943first 9 years marred by Aramaean attacks. Successors little attested
Ninurta-Kudurri-Usur 29438 months
Mari-Biti-Ahhe-Iddina942-c.920
Shamash-Mudammiqc.920-900contemporary of Adad-Nirari 2
Nabu-Shuma-Ukin 1900-887made treaty with Adad-Nirari 2
Nabu-Apla-Iddina887-855
Marduk-Zakir-Shumi 1855-819became vassal of Assyria (temp. Shalmaneser 3, Shamshi-Adad 5). Chaldaeans first mentioned
Marduk-Balassu-Iqbi819-813removed by Shamshi-Adad 5
Baba-Aha-Iddina813-811removed by Shamshi-Adad 5
[5 kings, names unknown]
Ninurta-Apla-[…]c.800-790
Marduk-Bel-Zeric.790-780Adad-Nirari 3 raided Chaldaeans
Marduk-Apla-Usurc.780-769Chaldaean
Eriba-Marduk769-761Chaldaean. Expelled Aramaeans from Babylonia. Remembered as founder of Chaldaean Dynasty
Nabu-Shuma-Ishkin761-748
Nabu-Nasir (Nabonassar)748-733Made vassal by Tiglath-Pileser 3
Nabu-Nadin-Zeri733-732killed in revolt
Nabu-Shuma-Ukin 27321 month
Babylon 9
Nabu-Mukin-Zeri731-729Aramaean. Deposed Nabu-Shuma-Ukin 2
Pulu (Tiglath-Pileser 3)729-727Assyrian king
Ululaju (Shalmaneser 5)727-722Assyrian king
Marduk-Apal-Iddina 2 (Merodach-Baladan)721-710Chaldaean. Contemporary of Hezekiah of Judah
Sharru-Kin (Sargon) 2709-705Assyrian king
Sin-Ahhe-Eriba (Sennacherib)704-703Assyrian king
Marduk-Zakir-Shumi 27031 month
Marduk-Apal-Iddina 2 (Merodach-Baladan)703restored
Bel-Ibni702-700Assyrian appointee
Ashur-Nadin-Shumi699-694Assyrian. Son of Sennacherib
Nergal-Ushezib693-692Elamite puppet. Captured by Assyria
Mushezib-Marduk692-689Chaldaean prince
Sin-Ahhe-Eriba (Sennacherib)688-6812nd term. Destroyed Babylon
Ashur-Aha-Iddin (Esarhaddon)680-669Assyrian king
Shamash-Shum-Ukin688-648Assyrian
Kandalanu647-627Viceroy appointed by Ashurbanipal. Aramaean?
Sin-Shum-Lishkar627Assyrian general in revolt
Sin-Shar-Ishkun626Assyrian king

OC dates & information from here. As per link, "Middle Babylonian" defined as "Dynasties 4-9". However, I have included the Kassites (as per David Rohl) and the Sealand Dynasty for information.

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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 09:27:10 PM »

That seems like quite a lot of work to and for me...  Wink
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 09:49:29 PM »

lol I'm sorry.  Embarrassed

It's more for information than anything else. There are no solid NC dates for the majority of those figures to my knowledge. One may be able to infer approximate NC dates for a few of the kings and Bernard Newgrosh's forthcoming book might shed a little light on the subject, though, as I say, it's more a reference thing.

And I thought you could copy the names wholesale into the d/base?  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 10:04:51 PM »

lol I'm sorry.  Embarrassed

It's more for information than anything else. There are no solid NC dates for the majority of those figures to my knowledge. One may be able to infer approximate NC dates for a few of the kings and Bernard Newgrosh's forthcoming book might shed a little light on the subject, though, as I say, it's more a reference thing.
Well, once these entries are in the database, the only thing one has to do is enter the NC dates into it as soon as they become available. I know there are still gaps in the New Chronology, but I don't mind waiting because I am certain they will be filled one day. And when they are, entering two figures for each king isn't too much effort. One of the reasons why I have started this project is the fact that it is pretty flexible and allows for speedy editing. I appreciate all those who create html tables and put them online, but editing those when the data material changes can be very time-consuming. I think my approach creates a platform for anyone who wants to contribute to piecing the NC puzzle together.
The other area (besides collecting lists of rulers) that I want ot do more in is the creation of maps. You may have seen my list of placemarks and the few maps above. The large Middle east map has been created from a NASA image plus the placemarks in digital form, so that their position on the map is pretty accurate. I will have to make more detailed maps of smaller areas of course. But again, having the data available in vector-based digital for helps a lot.

And I thought you could copy the names wholesale into the d/base?  Wink
Well, inserting new data into the database is simple, updating existing entries has the extra effort of manually matching IDs first.
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 01:11:08 AM »

OK, I've put it in there....
>List<
Until now, only sorting by NC date was possible, but now I've added that feature of sorting by OC date...  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 01:38:43 AM »

Well, once these entries are in the database, the only thing one has to do is enter the NC dates into it as soon as they become available. I know there are still gaps in the New Chronology, but I don't mind waiting because I am certain they will be filled one day. And when they are, entering two figures for each king isn't too much effort. One of the reasons why I have started this project is the fact that it is pretty flexible and allows for speedy editing. I appreciate all those who create html tables and put them online, but editing those when the data material changes can be very time-consuming. I think my approach creates a platform for anyone who wants to contribute to piecing the NC puzzle together.

I'll drink to that. I seem to recall that, in "Legend", Rohl tentatively identified the Biblical Amraphel with Hammurabi (please correct me if I'm wrong). There has also evidently been some more minor tinkering with various dates (our recent work on Dynasty 13 and Tudhaliya 4 being prime examples). All this shows that the New Chronology (like the OC) is still very much a work-in-progress and will of course change when new discoveries are made.

Rohl's genius is in his realigning history with that rather dry discipline called archaeology and proving that the Gospel According to Manetho (& friends) needn't be regarded as ineffable.
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Babylon III & IV
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2007, 01:46:40 AM »

It seems I made an error in my description of the kings of Rohl's list (including Babylon 3 & 4) I put in the database. Rather than "Kassites and Aramaeans", as I previously wrote, "Kassites and Isin 2" would be more appropriate.

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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2007, 08:28:29 PM »

It seems I made an error in my description of the kings of Rohl's list (including Babylon 3 & 4) I put in the database. Rather than "Kassites and Aramaeans", as I previously wrote, "Kassites and Isin 2" would be more appropriate.

Sorry! Embarrassed
You have nothing to apologise for.  Wink

Btw, if you find errors in any db-created lists, feel free to correct them.
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 12:32:49 AM »

I'll keep my eyes peeled! Wink
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2007, 06:01:55 PM »

The (incomplete) list of Mesopotamian Dynasties and their rulers can from now on be found >here<.
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2007, 01:54:20 PM »

Mitanni
Kirta1160-1150
Shuttarna 11150-1130
Barattarna (Parattarna, Barattama)1130-1110
Parshatatar (Parshatar)1110-1100
Shaushtatar1100-1070
Artatama 11070-1060
Shuttarna 21060-1045
Artashumara1045-1040
Tushratta1040-1010
Shuttarna 31010
Shattiwaza (Mattiwaza)1010-980
Shattuara 1980-960
Wasashatta960-940
Shattuara 2940-930

Caution is advised - Barattarna & Parshatatar and Shatturas 1 & 2 may be the same individuals. The dates are rough dates taken from Wikipedia but downdated in accordance with NC to reflect the New Kingdom synchronisms. These dates also allow us to place Idrimi of Alalakh at c.1120.
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Re: Babylonia
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2007, 02:34:31 PM »

OK, here we go...

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